Vortex_Master wrote:Ratburntro44 wrote:Vortex_Master wrote:This is a complication, because I asked everyone if they wanted a new leader two months ago, and everyone said no.

That was two months ago.
Also, now that I think about it, someone outside of WC is actually allowed to start the process of deposing the leader if they can recognizably show that they were unjustly denied entrance.
Who has unjustly been denied entrence? I have not turned down anyone, the whole time I have been leader....
Oh, aboad...
I wasn't actually referring to anybody.
I call apon the all powerful Drone! I have 3 questions!
• Do you believe that we need a new leader, just because my time has spanned long, and the Creed has prospered and regained it's old glory under me?
• Is it wrong for me to deny someone entry with just cause, or because they change their mind?
• Why is everyone acting so weird?
I'm not drone, but…yes (although I don't think the glory was lost before you became leader), no, who is acting weird?
jwl1000 wrote:Autumnwolf17 wrote:Vortex_Master wrote:If you are talking about replacing jwl, Joshua is on the council, and Jeremy and FM are next in line.
No, I meant you silly.

And I was joking.
I would never consider putting a former clan leader of a major clan in a leadership position (i mean overall leader)
no offense to FM, but i think we should go with the pure Creed
Such as both me and VM?
Vortex_Master wrote::cry: ... I never thought this would happen... I never imagined a day without me as leader... If this is what you all really want, the ballet will contain whatever council members/leaders want the job. High Creed may be on the ballet if the council agrees.
It isn't anything personal, it's like Clinton having to leave office after his 8 years.
I will be on the ballet.
Personally, I disagree with that. First off, if you are to be offered as a choice, then there should be two ballets- a first one deciding on whether to change leaders, and a second deciding whom the new leader is. This is huge because I doubt many people will read this whole post and this is the most important part.It has been an honour serving you. For my time as a member. For my time on the council. And for my long time as leader...
Your time on the council or as being a member isn't over.
I will not step down... You all must vote to have me removed. (It is 2 - 2 so far, by the looks.)
Interesting, both previous leaders have stepped down, in a way of sorts.
I do not want you all to have a huge argument with me over this, and I do not want to rule a people who do not want me as leader. Though I will not leave them as leader until they have decided amongst themselves what they will do. You must choose someone who will keep the Creed alive. Who will never let us fall. Who will bring us together. Someone... Someone... *sigh*
If the Creed is not kept alive properly under that leader, then they will simply be replaced.
I love being leader... I may not understand why you want a new leader... But the power is in the people…
Not because there is anything wrong with you as leader- because I want to see someone else new as leader. I would want even the best possible leader in the world to be replaced after an adequate time.
Thanks for giving them the idea Autumn.
I've actually been thinking about it for a couple of weeks, just seemed like the right time to mention it.
As for what jwl just said about pure Creed. I am not "pure" Creed. Ratburntro was not and is not "pure" Creed. Jeremy is not "pure" Creed. FM is not "pure" Creed. Joshua is not "pure" Creed. Furqi is not "pure" Creed. Most of us have had, or have, other clan affiliation.
Yep.
Vortex_Master wrote:Now that that is out of the way, there is only THREE qualified, active members for the job other than myself. You, FM, and Jeremy. And two of them have had experience leading, and quite frankly, they would still be leading if it weren't for small things. Jwl, you at one time wanted to lead your own clan. Everyone has a chance to make a clan and lead. Your only grounds for wanting a new leader is that I have been leader for "too long."
I am qualified… I don't want to be the leader, I prefer being the kind of permanent second in command guy. Yes, our grounds are that you have been leader for a long time- this is a problem only because we are a Republic and wish to combine the efforts of multiple leaders over time to evolve the clan. Personally, I think leaders should be in for 4 months or so.
JeremiahPedoBear wrote:I am still trying to understand why now must we vote for a new leader?

This is simply the rotation of power- the idea isn't to get rid of old leaders, it is simply to bring in new leaders. The problem, and sad part, is that we have to get rid of the old leaders to do that.