.-. who the hell do you think secret 3 is...
Did nobody but Karen notice we share the same IP???
Autumnwolf17 wrote:Oh, and about the "Creed doesn't spy on the Wolves", I seem to remember a certain Codamo...
Vortex_Master wrote:Autumnwolf17 wrote:Oh, and about the "Creed doesn't spy on the Wolves", I seem to remember a certain Codamo...
He wasn't I spy. I didn't even know he existed until he Pm'd me about joining.I didn't know he was WP first either, until you posted it. WC doesn't have any spies in WP that I know of.
Vortex_Master wrote:royalblue wrote:Cat - I have only two things to say.
To the whole possible second account, all I need to point out is that a few weeks ago, this clan was led by someone who was also a leading member of the Order of Secrets. For a matter of fact, it still goes that a large number of the WC leadership is also in Order of Secrets, and are completely unknown (or at least try to be) to almost all of us. Technically, VM did admit eventually, but Drone tried several times to be CW, BeatlesFan had multiple accounts, OOS is largely your leaders, and there are even members here who are also in clans other than OOS. And yet, most of them, if not all, seem to be serving the Creed to the best of their ability. I will too.
Second, electing me will not mean my takeover. After realizing I had a chance sometime last night (and admittedly, I had intended my run as a casual joke, as I had not seen any potential to win), I have thought a bit about what I really plan. My main goal is not to lead forever, but just to get you back on your feet. If I can do this, the power will go back to those of you native to the Creed and you'll be back where you belong, as a dominating force of Vortex Wars.
Drone has no affiliation with the OOS, and never has. Ratburntro44 made it without Drone's knowledge.necrocat219 wrote:I also need to point out that I dislike the atmosphere that multiaccounting brought to the scene. Your examples are going by the attitude and acceptance that multiaccounting is ok. Such WC and WP spying on each other has always annoyed me, and constant attempts (and successes?) to plant members in each other has always lead to an annoying uncertainty. I don't like how Ratburn, VortexMaster, Autmnwolf and Beatlesfan as examples I know of have multiaccounts to carry out their own ends. However, none as far as i know have been two prominent members like you (supposedly) are. Im talking about if we found out Autumn and Chris are the same person kind of big, however you seem to be two prominent members; that makes talking to you like talking to a robot, it's like all your responses are automated and I don't feel like I'm talking to a human being knowing that what you are saying is put on, and can criticise you with no guilt knowing I am most likely on good terms with your other self.
As for you leading WC for a short time...well things can turn out the way you want it. But I wouldn't feel comfortable not knowing who my leader is who is shaping the clan. I see you have good intentions in wanting to help the clan, but can't you do it another way?
WC and WP do not plant members. All WC in WP go by their normal account. All WP in WC do not try to gather info, as they are not ranked high enough to access any "hidden" knowledge, though I made everything open to the community except for my affairs in the OOS, which were just recently open to the public. As you can see, I have also released much info about the OOS, but only that which others wish for the community to know, or feel like telling me. I never was able to use any spies we may have had for my own purposes, because they are no longer affiliated with us. (and some may be rogue.)Guest77 wrote:Chess435 wrote:I'm half-tempted to go through and just say who everyone is, but then you would all hate me forever.
It'd be comical, though, and I think it would clear up a lot of paranoia.
I have openly admitted to everyone who is me. I am Vortex_Master, and I was Sub-Zero, who no one here probably remembers.
Ratburntro44 wrote:Vortex_Master wrote:Autumnwolf17 wrote:Oh, and about the "Creed doesn't spy on the Wolves", I seem to remember a certain Codamo...
He wasn't I spy. I didn't even know he existed until he Pm'd me about joining.I didn't know he was WP first either, until you posted it. WC doesn't have any spies in WP that I know of.
We did at one point for a very short time, but being a member of WP was too painful, even if it was to spy on them >_>
Autumnwolf17 wrote:Ratburntro44 wrote:Vortex_Master wrote:He wasn't I spy. I didn't even know he existed until he Pm'd me about joining.I didn't know he was WP first either, until you posted it. WC doesn't have any spies in WP that I know of.
We did at one point for a very short time, but being a member of WP was too painful, even if it was to spy on them >_>
Stop the insults... really.
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