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Re: Coward!

Postby Autumnwolf17 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:14 am

You know, we only had caught about 1/2 of that up until now and had decided it wasn't enough to conclude who he was. Finding the anagram was brilliant there. Very nicely done Guest.

Seriously, that was nice, you and I really need to talk more. :)

EDIT: To those of you who were bothering me about being too cautious... I told you so. I had some of this, and I knew it, and you listened to Ratsmasher... You listened to Ratsmasher, I think that's bad enough, no?

EDIT 2: The irony is that he was just complaining about people hiding behind false names to insult him... Coward. :lol:
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Re: Coward!

Postby Bingo204712 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:47 am

Guest77 wrote:Firstly, I'd like to say that playing as a guest by no means someone is a coward, especially when you know who they are, which you did know it was me (see spoiler below). Secondly, I did not only attack you. You just happened to have a 4 in the way of connecting my 3 to where I was concentrated, and I won the roll. That's not trolling, especially in a FULL MAP. I also attacked the other two players; you're simply the only one who started throwing insults left and right because of it.

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Furthermore, I have more than enough evidence to at least suggest with more than a doubt that you are indeed Ratsmasher.

I'll start with the coincidental evidence, since it's not as concrete as what else I have.

1. Let's look at your name, 'Earths Mars.' Simply stated, you can come up with that using all of the letters from 'Ratsmasher' using any internet anagram generator.
2. You just happen to use the same insults as he does.
3. You just happen to play at times that would be and were the same times Ratsmasher had logged in.
4. Your profile in VW is private, just as his has always been.

Moving on to the more concrete evidence.

1. Looking at the way you both speak, there are multiple patterns which emerge that suggest you are in fact the same person. There are too many for it to be purely coincidental. The pattern that is the most obvious would be the way you "laugh," e.g. the "ha ha" with a space between the ha's. A second one would be the consistent use of "lads" as a demeaning insult, suggesting your superiority, which I am failing to notice whatsoever. A third would be the lack of punctuation in general, but more importantly, that you rarely use periods, if even, to separate a multitude of sentences. Furthermore, the pattern in which you speak is similar enough in itself to suggest more than a resemblance.

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Vortexsmasher wrote:ha ha boys would just like to say goodbye to all you faggots bored of this now you faggots are just to gay to deal with. ha ha il leave on my own terms not cos cunto chess says so ha ha see you round faggots
Ratsmasher wrote:imagine being that much of an idiot that you let someone that types your rather than you're beat you lol.

honestly you gaylords make me laugh, comedy gold lads
Ratsmasher wrote:ha ha ha on that note il leave you fags to it
Earths Mars wrote:there not real guest its two people of here autumnwolf or guest77 i think. well bravo lads real brave of you hiding as guests and both attacking me ha ha sums you up to be honest

Earths Mars wrote:Whoever is trolling my game as a guest you are a coward and im embarrassed for you :oops:


2. You have far more than a familiarity with the members of this forum and in the game to have simply just started playing, even if you learned about everything from "reading" the forums as you suggested. How do you know so much about the Wolf Pack with dozens of pages of spam on their thread and others between any arguments?
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Earths Mars wrote:typical of the wolf pack from what ive read.

real brave is all i will say done like real men lol. never thought anyone would stoop so low as to hide behind guests and give me abuse. sly sneaky cowards whoever it was should be named and shamed or do you condone that behavior?


Yes, you were told that these two were banned, but putting it in quotation marks suggests you know otherwise.
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Earths Mars wrote:gee guys sure is a good job ratsmasher and lancestar were 'banned' otherwise these threads could be full of arguments and swear words lol


You know about Wolf not wanting to face Highlander, but that's not been a topic of enough conversation for you to know about unless you'd known about it previous to your "new arrival." You thought I was Wolf briefly during that game though it had been revealed who I was already, and so you tried to insult me as if I were Wolf. You obviously know people better than you're letting on, or else you wouldn't have made those accusations about the guest being either Wolf or myself to begin with. You would've had no idea, for more than just we suggested you were Ratsmasher originally.
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3. You imply the mods are bad people simply in every reference and reference having no mod friends, and despite having been "wronged," refuse to report people (likely in fear of having the mods find out you truly are Ratsmasher). You also warned someone else not to argue with the mods for fear of being banned, like KBF was before you made this little 'return.'
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Earths Mars wrote:didnt have my name, 2 of them joined my game and both attacked me

not bothered about reporting them, i have no mod friends .just the fact these cowards did what they did is good enough for me, just proves how pathetic they are. hiding as guests ffs


Earths Mars wrote:wow 19greg96 you are brave to argue with the mods!!! they will have you banned if you carry on lol

on a serious note though please stop this chatting on the thread now, dont make me quote the rules!!!! lol


4. You continually dismiss the notion that you're Ratsmasher by saying he has been "banned." However, in his last thread before his most recent ban, it was entitled that IP bans cannot stop him. You would realize that having said you read the forums and saying that Chess had dealt with them, that you cannot continually say he is banned, because his (your) dynamic IP allows for the return until a broad range of IPs are banned.

5. You play the exact same settings as Ratsmasher did, full map with random troop placement.


You ARE Ratsmasher. Beyond reasonable doubt.


How dear you go off on a rant about some baseless accusation meant to smear the name of another player in the forums who also is the same player in the game! I would suggest that you should have forwarded that message over to a mod instead of posting it online for EVERYONE to see! How dare you publicly shame and slander a player in the forums you do not run the forums you have zero credibility and you are trying to take action yourself when you have zero authority!

I think your behavior is shameful and you should have simply forwarded it to a mod and let them deal with it! You have no right to try to slander somebody in open chat! I mean what if I did that with you? Of course I would never stoop down to that level but I guess I just know what is right and wrong..

Either way I would advise you to make sure you forward that to a mod and to drop it and stop risking your own account. Geeze I understand the OP's rant It can be frustrating because I do know players like to sign on as guests and rattle a few cages! But the suggestion to block guests in your game is a good one that or create a game where guest have such a huge disadvantage because lack of upgrades that they loose :) Either way Earth Mars I'm sorry they keep attacking you in the forums but it does seem to be only curtain players that keep slandering your name... I find it interesting I hope they stop and start playing by the rules and we can move forward and they can learn from there mistakes.
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Re: Coward!

Postby neoexdeath » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:59 am

Bingo204712 wrote:
Guest77 wrote:Firstly, I'd like to say that playing as a guest by no means someone is a coward, especially when you know who they are, which you did know it was me (see spoiler below). Secondly, I did not only attack you. You just happened to have a 4 in the way of connecting my 3 to where I was concentrated, and I won the roll. That's not trolling, especially in a FULL MAP. I also attacked the other two players; you're simply the only one who started throwing insults left and right because of it.

Spoiler: show
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Furthermore, I have more than enough evidence to at least suggest with more than a doubt that you are indeed Ratsmasher.

I'll start with the coincidental evidence, since it's not as concrete as what else I have.

1. Let's look at your name, 'Earths Mars.' Simply stated, you can come up with that using all of the letters from 'Ratsmasher' using any internet anagram generator.
2. You just happen to use the same insults as he does.
3. You just happen to play at times that would be and were the same times Ratsmasher had logged in.
4. Your profile in VW is private, just as his has always been.

Moving on to the more concrete evidence.

1. Looking at the way you both speak, there are multiple patterns which emerge that suggest you are in fact the same person. There are too many for it to be purely coincidental. The pattern that is the most obvious would be the way you "laugh," e.g. the "ha ha" with a space between the ha's. A second one would be the consistent use of "lads" as a demeaning insult, suggesting your superiority, which I am failing to notice whatsoever. A third would be the lack of punctuation in general, but more importantly, that you rarely use periods, if even, to separate a multitude of sentences. Furthermore, the pattern in which you speak is similar enough in itself to suggest more than a resemblance.

Spoiler: show
Vortexsmasher wrote:ha ha boys would just like to say goodbye to all you faggots bored of this now you faggots are just to gay to deal with. ha ha il leave on my own terms not cos cunto chess says so ha ha see you round faggots
Ratsmasher wrote:imagine being that much of an idiot that you let someone that types your rather than you're beat you lol.

honestly you gaylords make me laugh, comedy gold lads
Ratsmasher wrote:ha ha ha on that note il leave you fags to it
Earths Mars wrote:there not real guest its two people of here autumnwolf or guest77 i think. well bravo lads real brave of you hiding as guests and both attacking me ha ha sums you up to be honest

Earths Mars wrote:Whoever is trolling my game as a guest you are a coward and im embarrassed for you :oops:


2. You have far more than a familiarity with the members of this forum and in the game to have simply just started playing, even if you learned about everything from "reading" the forums as you suggested. How do you know so much about the Wolf Pack with dozens of pages of spam on their thread and others between any arguments?
Spoiler: show
Earths Mars wrote:typical of the wolf pack from what ive read.

real brave is all i will say done like real men lol. never thought anyone would stoop so low as to hide behind guests and give me abuse. sly sneaky cowards whoever it was should be named and shamed or do you condone that behavior?


Yes, you were told that these two were banned, but putting it in quotation marks suggests you know otherwise.
Spoiler: show
Earths Mars wrote:gee guys sure is a good job ratsmasher and lancestar were 'banned' otherwise these threads could be full of arguments and swear words lol


You know about Wolf not wanting to face Highlander, but that's not been a topic of enough conversation for you to know about unless you'd known about it previous to your "new arrival." You thought I was Wolf briefly during that game though it had been revealed who I was already, and so you tried to insult me as if I were Wolf. You obviously know people better than you're letting on, or else you wouldn't have made those accusations about the guest being either Wolf or myself to begin with. You would've had no idea, for more than just we suggested you were Ratsmasher originally.
Spoiler: show
Image


3. You imply the mods are bad people simply in every reference and reference having no mod friends, and despite having been "wronged," refuse to report people (likely in fear of having the mods find out you truly are Ratsmasher). You also warned someone else not to argue with the mods for fear of being banned, like KBF was before you made this little 'return.'
Spoiler: show
Earths Mars wrote:didnt have my name, 2 of them joined my game and both attacked me

not bothered about reporting them, i have no mod friends .just the fact these cowards did what they did is good enough for me, just proves how pathetic they are. hiding as guests ffs


Earths Mars wrote:wow 19greg96 you are brave to argue with the mods!!! they will have you banned if you carry on lol

on a serious note though please stop this chatting on the thread now, dont make me quote the rules!!!! lol


4. You continually dismiss the notion that you're Ratsmasher by saying he has been "banned." However, in his last thread before his most recent ban, it was entitled that IP bans cannot stop him. You would realize that having said you read the forums and saying that Chess had dealt with them, that you cannot continually say he is banned, because his (your) dynamic IP allows for the return until a broad range of IPs are banned.

5. You play the exact same settings as Ratsmasher did, full map with random troop placement.


You ARE Ratsmasher. Beyond reasonable doubt.


How dear you go off on a rant about some baseless accusation meant to smear the name of another player in the forums who also is the same player in the game! I would suggest that you should have forwarded that message over to a mod instead of posting it online for EVERYONE to see! How dare you publicly shame and slander a player in the forums you do not run the forums you have zero credibility and you are trying to take action yourself when you have zero authority!

I think your behavior is shameful and you should have simply forwarded it to a mod and let them deal with it! You have no right to try to slander somebody in open chat! I mean what if I did that with you? Of course I would never stoop down to that level but I guess I just know what is right and wrong..

Either way I would advise you to make sure you forward that to a mod and to drop it and stop risking your own account. Geeze I understand the OP's rant It can be frustrating because I do know players like to sign on as guests and rattle a few cages! But the suggestion to block guests in your game is a good one that or create a game where guest have such a huge disadvantage because lack of upgrades that they loose :) Either way Earth Mars I'm sorry they keep attacking you in the forums but it does seem to be only curtain players that keep slandering your name... I find it interesting I hope they stop and start playing by the rules and we can move forward and they can learn from there mistakes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we simply don't want you here. Seriously, you troll this forum like we took your house or something!
Why don't you be nice like lancestar, he made his return and didn't do anything wrong from now(even thought highlander would argue). So, ratsmasher, stop hiding under your 2 accounts and show yourself, otherwise you are as coward as you think those guests are.
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Re: Coward!

Postby Bingo204712 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:12 am

neoexdeath wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we simply don't want you here. Seriously, you troll this forum like we took your house or something!
Why don't you be nice like lancestar, he made his return and didn't do anything wrong from now. (even thought highlander would argue). So, ratsmasher, stop hiding under your 2 accounts and show yourself, otherwise you are as coward as you think those guests are.


First, please don't attempt to speak on the behalf of the forums you do not have the authority!

Second, like I just explained to the guest above you can not go around accusing people of being other players in the fourms! Your logic of players of different names also being players of other names and trying to slander players is rude and disrespectful!

Thirdly, to my understanding it is against the rules to have more than one account so you should simply forward any information you have regarding players with more than one account to a mod and let them deal with it!

Finally, don't try to slander players reputation and throw out claims that are not proven! Your behavior is being very rude towards Earths Mars and I am kindly asking you to stop it and to treat him with a little more respect that he does deserve! Granted you may disagree with him that is to be expected. Heck I disagree with a few people from time to time but to try to slander there name is beyond bullying and mean spirited!

Can't we treat others with a bit more respect neoexdeath? Wouldn't you agree it is the better thing to do? I hope so lets learn from out mistakes and move forward by refusing to spread lies in the forums! :)
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Re: Coward!

Postby neoexdeath » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:16 am

First, please don't attempt to speak on the behalf of the forums you do not have the authority!

I think I can safely say the EVERYONE that's not a troll on this forum doesn't want ratsmasher here.

Second, like I just explained to the guest above you can not go around accusing people of being other players in the fourms! Your logic of players of different names also being players of other names and trying to slander players is rude and disrespectful!

I see you didn't read all the reason why he is accusing him of that? I suggest to re-read that post.

Thirdly, to my understanding it is against the rules to have more than one account so you should simply forward any information you have regarding players with more than one account to a mod and let them deal with it!

Well, the mods pretty much can see what we are doing, because their job is to spy.
Finally, don't try to slander players reputation and throw out claims that are not proven! Your behavior is being very rude towards Earths Mars and I am kindly asking you to stop it and to treat him with a little more respect that he does deserve! Granted you may disagree with him that is to be expected. Heck I disagree with a few people from time to time but to try to slander there name is beyond bullying and mean spirited!

We all tried to do so, but again, I see you only support him. We TRIED to accept him, until he broke the limit. And again, please read guest77 post again.
Can't we treat others with a bit more respect neoexdeath? Wouldn't you agree it is the better thing to do? I hope so lets learn from out mistakes and move forward by refusing to spread lies in the forums! :)

I tried so, but you 2 gave me reasons not to. And if you would really read my posts, I tried to stay out of this as much as possible.
So all in all, this chatting is useless.
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Re: Coward!

Postby Bingo204712 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:32 am

neoexdeath wrote:....So all in all, this chatting is useless.


Finally your getting it! :D Forward it to a mod and keep it out of public forums!!!! Glad were making progress. Just like if I had a complaint against you I would PM you or forward it to a mod to let them make a judgement and to deal with it. It is not our jobs to police the forums nor are we authorized!
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Re: Coward!

Postby Drone6o3 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:38 am

-_- I am just wondering why you all let this keep happening, just avoid conflict with people you dislike and don't get sucked in...
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Re: Coward!

Postby HoneyBoo » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:47 am

Drone6o3 wrote:-_- I am just wondering why you all let this keep happening, just avoid conflict with people you dislike and don't get sucked in...


Well with that great wisdom why don't you practice it? Instead you post here trying to start an argument! But hey that's the same thing my dad does he tells everyone "Do as I say NOT do as I do" such an awful rule in my opinion. I hope I can set a better example for others than that! Maybe we both should not flame others... *cough* *cough* eh YOU!
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Re: Coward!

Postby BeatlesFan » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:56 am

Bingo204712 wrote: Thirdly, to my understanding it is against the rules to have more than one account so you should simply forward any information you have regarding players with more than one account to a mod and let them deal with it!


I do not wish to get into the middle of your discussion. I just want to address this one limited point.

It is not against the rules to have more than one forum account.

Many players have multiple forum accounts - I sure do.

It would be a rule break to attempt to use another account to get around a ban. But you can otherwise have more than one forum account.

(Yes there are other possibilities of someone abusing this such as using multiple forum accounts to spam, triple post, troll, etc. but those can be dealt with by mods, if necessary)

You can also have more than one in-game account. Never log into the game with more than one at the same time. It is absolutely a violation to go into the live game on the same map with more than one account whether it be a registered account or as a guest.
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Re: Coward!

Postby Drone6o3 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:00 am

HoneyBoo wrote:
Drone6o3 wrote:-_- I am just wondering why you all let this keep happening, just avoid conflict with people you dislike and don't get sucked in...


Well with that great wisdom why don't you practice it? Instead you post here trying to start an argument! But hey that's the same thing my dad does he tells everyone "Do as I say NOT do as I do" such an awful rule in my opinion. I hope I can set a better example for others than that! Maybe we both should not flame others... *cough* *cough* eh YOU!


You are completely right, I am sorry and I really wasn't trying to start an argument at all :oops:
I am sincerely sorry, are you willing to except my apology?
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