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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:24 pm

Guest77 wrote:I hate eigenvalues and eigenvectors ._.

Well, I'm not making you do anything with them.
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby necrocat219 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:25 pm

So... high rated people are the ones that give out the highest ratings? Doesn't that create exactly what we don't want? A monopoly? It should be everyone's vote is equal. The only restricting factor there should be is the time a person has been on a forum, as that is a barrier against multiaccounting.
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:51 pm

necrocat219 wrote:So... high rated people are the ones that give out the highest ratings? Doesn't that create exactly what we don't want? A monopoly? It should be everyone's vote is equal. The only restricting factor there should be is the time a person has been on a forum, as that is a barrier against multiaccounting.

Think of it like this:

Everyone is equal at the start. Each person has, say, 100 points. Those are given to everyone else in a proportion based on how they rate them; that person gets points from everyone else dividing points to them. Then, as everyone now has a new amount of points, some people are higher than other; the same thing is then done again now. It keeps happening up until infinity, where it approaches a specific set of numbers which are the proper ratings. Luckily, we can just find an eigenvector rather than actually having to do it infinite times.

For example, say we have 8 people: Jim, James, John, Johnny, Jimmy, Jonathan, Jon, and Jimbo. Here are how they each rate each other (ratings are given in same order as names, rating for yourself is automatically 0)

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Jim      : 0,7,6,9,3,5,7,2
James    : 7,0,4,7,9,5,2,6
John     : 6,7,0,5,2,9,7,5
Johnny   : 4,8,9,0,5,8,5,8
Jimmy    : 7,7,8,6,0,9,8,7
Jonathan : 8,5,2,3,1,0,4,2
Jon      : 7,6,5,5,4,8,0,9
Jimbo    : 6,5,6,9,3,2,4,0


These are then divided by the total point each person gave out to make a transition matrix.

Then I want to get the eigenvectors of this matrix:

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  0   7/40 6/41 4/47 7/52 8/25 7/44 6/35
 7/39  0   7/41 8/47 7/52 5/25 6/44 5/35
 6/39 4/40  0   9/47 8/52 2/25 5/44 6/35
 9/39 7/40 5/41  0   6/52 3/25 5/44 9/35
 3/39 9/40 2/41 5/47  0   1/25 4/44 3/35
 5/39 5/40 9/41 8/47 9/52  0   8/44 2/35
 7/39 2/40 7/41 5/47 8/52 4/25  0   4/35
 2/39 6/40 5/41 8/47 7/52 2/25 9/44  0


This gives them the end ratings (approximately):
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Jim      : 128
James    : 124
John     : 106
Johnny   : 124
Jimmy    :  78
Jonathan : 114
Jon      : 102
Jimbo    : 100


If you were to simply add up the number they were given by each person, you would get

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Jim      : 45
James    : 45
John     : 40
Johnny   : 44
Jimmy    : 27
Jonathan : 46
Jon      : 37
Jimbo    : 39

This gives an advantage to Jonathan; however, the people who like the Jonathan the most are the more disliked people (John, Jimmy, Jon). As a result, it may be considered a better system to use the method I am using.
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby BeatlesFan » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:08 pm

While I will not be participating in this - Ratburntro44 is correct about this process. The military used a similar concept with ratings of officers.

You could have someone who always rates everyone at 99% and then one day rates someone as 100%. All of those who were rated at 99% think they are great, but the computer system knows that they are "at the bottom" for this rater and only the 100% guy is really on top.

While what he is describing is very different, I suggest the concept is similar.

If you just want to know a pure average, you could just have every "vote" with the same weight. However, Rat's system allows us to know who actually finished on top, middle, and bottom and then give higher weight to those on top and lesser to those on the bottom.

If you want to know if you are likely to get a promotion, it's good to know how middle to upper management views you and not be misled by the fact that while your peers like you management does not.

I know this is a horrible analogy, but his plan makes sense.
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby aboad2 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:17 pm

rat can i join ?
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:38 pm

aboad2 wrote:rat can i join ?

Sure.
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby jwl1000 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:51 am

i dont plan to understand this right now
what year will i learn this?
(im doing geometry next)
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby guineazilla » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:04 am

Ok I'll join.
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby Ratburntro44 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:37 am

jwl1000 wrote:i dont plan to understand this right now
what year will i learn this?
(im doing geometry next)

This is linear algebra (considered part of Calc 2 where I do math).
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Re: What is your forum reputation?

Postby Sundancer » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:39 pm

No one likes Jimmy.
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