{Tournament} VTII Clan Edition

[Autumnwolf17]

It should be all. Member problem on your side, not theirs. Their call though.

So if one of your members randomly decides to declare a war, does that count?

Declare war? We have not dealt with that situation. We would start by attempting to make amends,and if not possible, we would be forced to treat it as if the other clan had declared war on us and procede accordingly.

[Ratburntro44]

Actually, it was fangfallen that posted WC might win by default, not WC- I'm fairly sure we would not have counted it as a win by default.

[Autumnwolf17]

Actually, it was fangfallen that posted WC might win by default, not WC- I'm fairly sure we would not have counted it as a win by default.

Why would it be a win by default?

[Ratburntro44]

It should be all. Member problem on your side, not theirs. Their call though.

So if one of your members randomly decides to declare a war, does that count?

Declare war? We have not dealt with that situation. We would start by attempting to make amends,and if not possible, we would be forced to treat it as if the other clan had declared war on us and procede accordingly.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3189

Considering what happened when highlander actually has declared war on you, that's not a great argument.

[Ratburntro44]

Actually, it was fangfallen that posted WC might win by default, not WC- I'm fairly sure we would not have counted it as a win by default.

Why would it be a win by default?

I don't know, ask fangfallen.

[Autumnwolf17]

So if one of your members randomly decides to declare a war, does that count?

Declare war? We have not dealt with that situation. We would start by attempting to make amends,and if not possible, we would be forced to treat it as if the other clan had declared war on us and procede accordingly.

http://vortexwars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3189

Considering what happened when highlander actually has declared war on you, that's not a great argument.

I'm never going to hear the end of that, am I?

I accepted it when you declared war, and when I thought Ozserf did. Same goes for whatever the name of bigbutter's clan was.

[Ratburntro44]

If for some reason Knights had lost I don't think anyone would be calling foul.

Granted that's probably true, but hardly changes whether the matches should count- if you report a bank robber only because he didn't share the money with you, he's still going to jail.

[BeatlesFan]

If for some reason Knights had lost I don't think anyone would be calling foul.

Granted that's probably true, but hardly changes whether the matches should count- if you report a bank robber only because he didn't share the money with you, he's still going to jail.

You think WC got robbed? By their own clan members perhaps.

At any rate - I don't want a victory that looks suspect to anyone.

I will repeat though that if the Knights had lost - no one would be saying anything about the fairness of it.

I will offer this. Since due to WC own members "being confused" about who had the right to show up and represent their clan - I would like to propose that BOTH of the fights (The original "first to win 3" matches and the VTI Clan Edition matches) start from zero and our Black Knights Team Captain is Highlander. He will come to terms with you - and fight ONE series of fights that will count both here in the VTI Clan Edition and also in our "first to win 3" challenge. I accept that in order to come to terms that will count for both - we may have to modify the "first to win 3" setup. ONE series - counts here and there. Is WC okay with that? If so - we do now have to wait for Highlander since he will lead the Black Knights. (And I am really not sure how long he is out for at the moment).

[chris1726354]

Declare war? We have not dealt with that situation. We would start by attempting to make amends,and if not possible, we would be forced to treat it as if the other clan had declared war on us and procede accordingly.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3189

Considering what happened when highlander actually has declared war on you, that's not a great argument.

I'm never going to hear the end of that, am I?

I accepted it when you declared war, and when I thought Ozserf did. Same goes for whatever the name of bigbutter's clan was.

The first time I read that I literally thought I saw Ryan's name in the second sentence.

[chris1726354]

If for some reason Knights had lost I don't think anyone would be calling foul.

Granted that's probably true, but hardly changes whether the matches should count- if you report a bank robber only because he didn't share the money with you, he's still going to jail.

You think WC got robbed? By their own clan members perhaps.

At any rate - I don't want a victory that looks suspect to anyone.

I will repeat though that if the Knights had lost - no one would be saying anything about the fairness of it.

I will offer this. Since due to WC own members "being confused" about who had the right to show up and represent their clan - I would like to propose that BOTH of the fights (The original "first to win 3" matches and the VTI Clan Edition matches) start from zero and our Black Knights Team Captain is Highlander. He will come to terms with you - and fight ONE series of fights that will count both here in the VTI Clan Edition and also in our "first to win 3" challenge. I accept that in order to come to terms that will count for both - we may have to modify the "first to win 3" setup. ONE series - counts here and there. Is WC okay with that? If so - we do now have to wait for Highlander since he will lead the Black Knights. (And I am really not sure how long he is out for at the moment).

I've been trying to finish this battle up all day!! I've been getting people together and such and I've been in every battle. I've won 6 battles! It should be at 3-5. Chess was in the counsel when he fought us and every wc member I've faced are good players. We've earned those wins.