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[Pingu]

Don't know why I still occasionally post these kind of messages as I'm not sure they have any effect.

Still, I am reporting here wuwu42 and foainoasch for secret allying in what might as well be a double account cheating.

At game start foainoasch placed close to wuwu42, and each asked for alliance with their neighbour on other side. De facto this became a 4 vs 1 alliance. One of the 2 others was roberthosmer and had an extremely rude chat against me all game long.

This game is really suffering from lack of moderation (which is not same as bad moderation, but just not enough) and lack of clear set of rules intended to enforce fair play.

Now forum people, wake up ! Lopdo never answered (at least for ages) on this topic, he may not care, i don't know. But do YOU care ? Can we have rules intended to enforce fair play ?

The simplest start would be just to state clearly that secret alliances are forbidden, then this would allow to take action on some occasions. Now it is just allowed by default - is it purposedly desired ? Lopdo ?

[techgump]

I still pay attention. It's hard to verify, just to let you know. I have to catch them in the act, and at first will only issue serious warning, which I do take time to do here and there... but it's dumb luck whether I catch em while I am on or not.

[Pingu]

I know you do, tech, and I have no reproach for you on that matter. But you got it right, 2 or 3 of you moderators cannot offer the needed presence to have these players get the feeling they might get trouble by even trying these sort of things. Of course there is the recurrent topic of getting more moderators, and I really think that might help as well, though I understand the underlying fear of the current moderator team (incl. Lopdo) which is working fine now. Note that I'm not even applying for mod myself as I'm not enough online, but I really would like that Lopdo tries once again to add more. Dare the risk ! (this is what this game is all about anyway... )

But my main point was different. Where are the RULES ? For the moment they are in 3 moderators (pair of) hands. When that last bad game happened, I saw Karen 2 minutes before in the main lobby... There are 10 simultaneous games, one mod (or even 3 simultaneously present) can't observe them all. So you have to wait that such bad players get caught by one of you to have them refrain their bad ideas. Why not in the first place state CLEARLY what is allowed, what is fair, and what is not, so that you would get a serious warning if caught by a moderator ? You all, moderators and Lopdo, haven't dealed with such questions for ages, though I (and others) have asked quite some times. I know about the "Vortex Wars Rulebook" by Fiendess. It contains many important things, but none about gameplay actually. So I wonder if this is on purpose: no rules, do what you want but we might warn you if you abuse ? Is it the case ? Can we get an answer ?

[Lopdo]

Moderators are 2 edged weapons. It is really hard to pick good ones and even those can do some stupid things from time to time. I got burned pretty badly before, both by really bad mods and by my perhaps unfortunate decisions. I know that the game environment is in pretty bad shape, but I am not sure that more mods would help. I am afraid it would make situation worse in many cases.

[techgump]

It is really hard to pick good ones and even those can do some stupid things from time to time.

He was talking about me.

[calleharnemark]

Moderators are 2 edged weapons. It is really hard to pick good ones and even those can do some stupid things from time to time. I got burned pretty badly before, both by really bad mods and by my perhaps unfortunate decisions. I know that the game environment is in pretty bad shape, but I am not sure that more mods would help. I am afraid it would make situation worse in many cases.

I think he meant like adding some info in how to play section. which means this is going to feature requests. Sorry Pingu wrong topic.

[Joshua]

Moderators are 2 edged weapons. It is really hard to pick good ones and even those can do some stupid things from time to time. I got burned pretty badly before, both by really bad mods and by my perhaps unfortunate decisions. I know that the game environment is in pretty bad shape, but I am not sure that more mods would help. I am afraid it would make situation worse in many cases.

Just use people who are well-known, experienced and don't argue much. So yeah, Ratburn.

[Ratburntro44]

Just use people who are well-known, experienced and don't argue much. So yeah, Ratburn.

Maybe if you took out the "well-known", "experienced", and "don't argue much" requirements from there I would fit that.

[Joshua]

Just use people who are well-known, experienced and don't argue much. So yeah, Ratburn.

Maybe if you took out the "well-known", "experienced", and "don't argue much" requirements from there I would fit that.

Aww, look at you, all modest! *Grabs cheek*

[Ratburntro44]

Just use people who are well-known, experienced and don't argue much. So yeah, Ratburn.

Maybe if you took out the "well-known", "experienced", and "don't argue much" requirements from there I would fit that.

Aww, look at you, all modest! *Grabs cheek*

I'm only well known on the forums, not the game.

I've played like 10 games in the last 5 months.

...lol at last. You don't know me.