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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby royalblue » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:34 am

In my opinion, and mine alone, the ban is very well deserved (assuming I'm reading right and there was a ban). I don't think it's worth getting rid of FM over, I certainly don't want that, but if this weren't FM, if it were just some random guy, we'd all be behind even a permaban. There's absolutely no excuse for any of his multiaccounting. When he plays himself, he is benefiting himself with no competition, even if he "played fairly both sides", he still gets shards and experience points on both accounts which he didn't really earn. And when he's playing against other people with both accounts, even if he thinks he's using each equally, I'm not under the impression he told the other players at all. There will always be a bias there to attack other players more and to pull the punches against your own accounts at the very least.

Don't misinterpret me, I support having second accounts in the game, I know Autumn uses second accounts often to track the lobby while he plays, and that Highlander uses one to play without being targeted for his rating. That's completely understandable. But FM's case was very different and I sincerely hope he's learned his lesson.
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby Fangfallen » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:41 am

royalblue wrote:...Don't misinterpret me, I support having second accounts in the game...


Once I played a 2v2 with Autumn, we both were using two accounts.

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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby Aurora Australis » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:51 am

>(FM)< wrote:I literally broke no rules.
With the multi-accounting and all.
Besides the principal of it all...

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Members are only permitted to log in with ONE single Vortex Wars account at a time.
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby royalblue » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:55 am

Fangfallen wrote:
royalblue wrote:...Don't misinterpret me, I support having second accounts in the game...


Once I played a 2v2 with Autumn, we both were using two accounts.

1. The keyword is "once", FM seems to have done it many, many times.
2. Everyone involved knew beforehand, and you were still technically even.
3. The overall benefit you probably got from the game you played wasn't enough to make it completely unfair to other people.
4. Autumn has so many accounts at this point that all the restless data has probably developed its own hive mind by now.

Fangfallen wrote:Are we bad people?

And on the question, I think that Autumn is mostly good, and you would be fairly well off if it weren't for all the homicide.
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>(FM)< wrote:I literally broke no rules.
With the multi-accounting and all.
Besides the principal of it all...

2. Vortex Wars Accounts:
Members are only permitted to log in with ONE single Vortex Wars account at a time.

Which technically makes my example about Autumn a rule break as well, but it's kind of different. Really different.
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby >(FM)< » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:49 pm

But technically They all broke the rules just as much as me,
Probably more, as I just recently started that a few months ago.
They have been doing it I'm assuming much longer, I just entered a game at the same time with them,
And No, I didn't get banned thankfully.
Anyways NO I wasn't biased but no one believes me i don't care,
The game is the game, yea having a high rate is good, but oddly enough, My rate is better when I don't do it easier to concentrate using only one account instead of thinking for 2.
I even allied against my main account with another player!
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby Autumnwolf17 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:37 pm

If you're referring to Fang and me, we've done it twice total. And we told Tech (given how often he's afk, it's likely he didn't notice, but we certainly tried).
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby GigaWatt » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:44 pm

Autumnwolf17 wrote:If you're referring to Fang and me, we've done it twice total. And we told Tech (given how often he's afk, it's likely he didn't notice, but we certainly tried).

that doesn't change what the rules are how is fang a blue now?
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby Fangfallen » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:51 pm

GigaWatt wrote:
Autumnwolf17 wrote:If you're referring to Fang and me, we've done it twice total. And we told Tech (given how often he's afk, it's likely he didn't notice, but we certainly tried).

that doesn't change what the rules are how is fang a blue now?


I am 'blue' because I need it to run the VT's.
Lopdo could do it himself, but because of all the stuff he has to do he has entrusted me with the responsibility.

As for mine and Autum's 'rulebreak,' it is hardly anything to whine about.

Lopdo himself has broken alleged cussing rules and he isn't banned yet.

I will clarify exactly what we were doing.

Neither of us were using our main accounts, they were all newb accounts which haven't been used since.
We both stated at the beginning of the match that we both had two accounts (2V2) and then proceeded to team up with ourselves and battle. It was fair and neither party felt violated or cheated. In my opinion, nothing wrong was done. Though that is up to Lopdo to ultimately decide.
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby GigaWatt » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:56 pm

Fangfallen wrote:
GigaWatt wrote:
Autumnwolf17 wrote:If you're referring to Fang and me, we've done it twice total. And we told Tech (given how often he's afk, it's likely he didn't notice, but we certainly tried).

that doesn't change what the rules are how is fang a blue now?


I am 'blue' because I need it to run the VT's.
Lopdo could do it himself, but because of all the stuff he has to do he has entrusted me with the responsibility.

As for mine and Autum's 'rulebreak,' it is hardly anything to whine about.

Lopdo himself has broken alleged cussing rules and he isn't banned yet.

I will clarify exactly what we were doing.

Neither of us were using our main accounts, they were all newb accounts which haven't been used since.
We both stated at the beginning of the match that we both had two accounts (2V2) and then proceeded to team up with ourselves and battle. It was fair and neither party felt violated or cheated. In my opinion, nothing wrong was done. Though that is up to Lopdo to ultimately decide.

the rules seem clear, why should there be exception in your case? if you were just normal users perhaps but being made a blue having broklen a rule seems bad
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Re: ℱℳ's ℭonfession ℬooth

Postby Autumnwolf17 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:06 pm

Because we did it twice as an experiment with accounts that won't ever matter again and everyone was aware of it and the game was still even. And it was before he was blue, and he's blue for a reason.
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