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Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:34 am
by techgump
Just requesting that something be done about the wins leaderboard for
AcaNintento
Joker

The win ratio is totally unrealistic for any normal game play... assuming disconnects, starting position, and luck, these values are impossible without multi-logging cheats. It would be nice to see the wins for 10 authentic players. I mean, you can verify this with everyone else on the wins boards, whose win ratio is all fairly close, ranging 30-50%... realistic values. My opinion, anything pushing above 50% is very questionable. Winning 1 out of every 2 games is pretty amazing unless one plays 2-3 player maps a lot.... and even then it's a stretch.

This might mean also taking into considering a small database log in which queries can match users to games to find games where 2 or more users are consistently matched with same ip and/or same game room, whereby one user is losing and abnormal ratio, while the other potential respective matches win an abnormal ratio. Surely this is not difficult, and can offer you an admin panel to which potential cheaters are easily identifiable. I think an ip match is not sufficient enough, as one can use one browser to tunnel via a proxy, while the other browser remains normal. A small consideration to make the game stats accurate and catch multi-loggers without players having to question who's legit. I am willing to help in dev on that code should be desired.

Thanks.

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:55 am
by Ratburntro44
What about Puma?

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:34 am
by Lopdo
database system I am using REALLY sucks so I can't do queries of any kind, I do log bunch of thing that might help identify cheaters, but unfortunately I need to check them manually. I will look into it and clear it up

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:09 pm
by Norman Bates
While i'm pretty sure he doesn't cheat, i find it odd that Niogreek, after getting his 1000th win, managed to get at least 150 more in about 3 days or so...

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:19 pm
by Lopdo
He plays a LOT :) there is nothing at all that would suggest cheating

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:33 pm
by techgump
Ditto, 150 games in nothing in 3 days. Very achievable. He tends to play smaller maps due to disconnect issues, so he can squeeze in more games than the average person who would play a variety, or like me, where I typically play larger maps much more.

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:35 pm
by Norman Bates
Wow, I thought my playing of roughly 20-25 games was a rather large amount but I guess not. Either I am a "casual" player or other people need to do other stuff.

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:31 am
by techgump
User "sadza" would be another one. He literally popped up on the wins overnight, passing all the regular players on the board. I have never played this user or seen him before. He must be playing himself mostly.

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:22 pm
by Ratburntro44
Norman Bates wrote:Wow, I thought my playing of roughly 20-25 games was a rather large amount but I guess not. Either I am a "casual" player or other people need to do other stuff.


20-25 games is a large amount, just not when you compare it to certain people.

Re: Remove cheaters in Wins Leaderboard

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:00 pm
by techgump
ASDF is likely multi-logging as well. Consistently a Guest player with him in games and neither attack each other.
Something needs to be done about this if possible. I am going to boot guests from now on... and that sucks for them and the overall game growth... but I'd rather do that than have 2 or 3 multi-logged guests.