Double PC/secret allies

[cr33per]

Is there anything who deals with that? So many reports. I encounter few of them per day - nothing changes? Should I write a topic in the Tip thread that it is wise to play double?

[Ratburntro44]

Is there anything who deals with that?

Je ne comprends pas.

So many reports. I encounter few of them per day - nothing changes?

Je ne comprends pas.

Should I write a topic in the Tip thread that it is wise to play double?

No.

[Joshua]

Is there anything who deals with that? So many reports. I encounter few of them per day - nothing changes? Should I write a topic in the Tip thread that it is wise to play double?

The mods deal with it.

Most get caught, but doing it based on IPs is unfair because of siblings who play in the same house.

It is not wise to play double. Don't encourage it.

[Xtermy]

Is there anything who deals with that? So many reports. I encounter few of them per day - nothing changes? Should I write a topic in the Tip thread that it is wise to play double?

The mods deal with it.

Most get caught, but doing it based on IPs is unfair because of siblings who play in the same house.

It is not wise to play double. Don't encourage it.

On the contrary, it seems few if any "get caught".

A mod has to actually first have the alleged offender online together with him\her, and even then a warning is usually issued if it's a first time offense.

But, generally, due to the lack of mods (especially in several time zones) a lot of abusers go unpunished, and things don't seem to get better since the launch of V2.0 (if anything, the flock of "fresh blood" has only made them worse).

[Joshua]

Is there anything who deals with that? So many reports. I encounter few of them per day - nothing changes? Should I write a topic in the Tip thread that it is wise to play double?

The mods deal with it.

Most get caught, but doing it based on IPs is unfair because of siblings who play in the same house.

It is not wise to play double. Don't encourage it.

On the contrary, it seems few if any "get caught".

A mod has to actually first have the alleged offender online together with him\her, and even then a warning is usually issued if it's a first time offense.

But, generally, due to the lack of mods (especially in several time zones) a lot of abusers go unpunished, and things don't seem to get better since the launch of V2.0 (if anything, the flock of "fresh blood" has only made them worse).

I agree, we probably need more in-game mods (Forum ones are fine) who are awake long enough to cover all time zones. Playing in GMT I get no mods on at 8-10 AM and no mods on at 12-5 AM (That's right, "AM" on both times, I play this long into the early hours )

[cr33per]

Ty Spamnator title owner pointing out my fast typed message English failures - one post more closer to dominating Spam Olympics for you.

Indeed rather few than many get caught. There is a report and black list thread. Quite a load of posts - probably half of them rage or false alarms. There should be better report system. Not simply a topic where you can throw a name and simplified reason. For instance if one player gets too many reports it surly arouses an attention among mod team.

And for the last there are smarter ways playing double PC or secret allies - that go so many times undetected. In this case its not wise for me to point them out here. To me it seems that group of players are a way head of Moderation team. Its not bad. A thief is always few steps further then the catcher.

Its not hard to start detecting those players, at first lets start with their motives? Why they do that? Well most of them use it for to raise ranking (that also explains why there more of them in v2) a smaller amount just to get more XP, win others. As the main reason is RANK then lets start from there. Routine checks: ranking board. Players who have high winning %, players who get a lot of rank per day. Just to check with who they play, what are those IPs of those players: can we find something similar, suspicious. Its a manual work in case automatic statistic engine put behind it - obviously it has not been done here. But despite that it is still doable with manual way: only time it takes.

Secondly reports should not be public. If say Player Ä cheats, then obviously when the information reaches to him he stops for the time being just to get the report under False sign and later on start again.

[Joshua]

Ty Spamnator title owner pointing out my fast typed message English failures - one post more closer to dominating Spam Olympics for you.

Indeed rather few than many get caught. There is a report and black list thread. Quite a load of posts - probably half of them rage or false alarms. There should be better report system. Not simply a topic where you can throw a name and simplified reason. For instance if one player gets too many reports it surly arouses an attention among mod team.

And for the last there are smarter ways playing double PC or secret allies - that go so many times undetected. In this case its not wise for me to point them out here. To me it seems that group of players are a way head of Moderation team. Its not bad. A thief is always few steps further then the catcher.

Its not hard to start detecting those players, at first lets start with their motives? Why they do that? Well most of them use it for to raise ranking (that also explains why there more of them in v2) a smaller amount just to get more XP, win others. As the main reason is RANK then lets start from there. Routine checks: ranking board. Players who have high winning %, players who get a lot of rank per day. Just to check with who they play, what are those IPs of those players: can we find something similar, suspicious. Its a manual work in case automatic statistic engine put behind it - obviously it has not been done here. But despite that it is still doable with manual way: only time it takes.

Secondly reports should not be public. If say Player Ä cheats, then obviously when the information reaches to him he stops for the time being just to get the report under False sign and later on start again.

OFF-TOPIC: Ratburn used to call me a spammer. Then he realised he was first on the post list, I was 8th and had been on the forum only a week less than him :3.

Yes, we need a report button on users aswell as maps.

IP matches wont really work because of proxy servers and siblings who play in the same household.

[Ratburntro44]

@Joshua What defines a spammer is quality, not quantity. Your posts last year were terrible quality. Seems to have changed this year.

@cr33per What is your problem with me? I get angry sometimes and give people valid reasons to dislike me; that hasn't happened to you. Sometimes I make fun of people; hasn't happened to you. You just came here and started calling me a spammer. Seriously. I was just pointing out that I didn't understand; nothing against you. Seriously, try to be nicer. You've called this whole forum spam, way too large of a percentage of your posts are devoted to calling me and other spammers and saying stuff is random spam when you're confused. Notice, some people, when they don't understand something, don't insult the person who posted that and call it random spam as a result.

[highlander]

I'm not a spammer , just a guy casting his opinion.Also enjoying the forum games.

[Xtermy]

As the main reason is RANK then lets start from there. Routine checks: ranking board. Players who have high winning %, players who get a lot of rank per day. Just to check with who they play, what are those IPs of those players: can we find something similar, suspicious. Its a manual work in case automatic statistic engine put behind it - obviously it has not been done here. But despite that it is still doable with manual way: only time it takes.

Secondly reports should not be public. If say Player Ä cheats, then obviously when the information reaches to him he stops for the time being just to get the report under False sign and later on start again.

Since as far as I know, all the mods do their work voluntarily, asking them to do complicated (or at list tedious) manual work as perhaps asking a bit too much.

As for your second point - it actually makes a lot of sense and I don't know why I haven't thought of that sooner myself. Then again, people (well, at least the honest ones, that is) have the natural urge to report cheaters, and therefore your proposal won't work (even more so, since you can't "shoosh" everyone who tries to report somebody else).