Tournement

[1N5AN3]

Could you put El Capitan against someone else? FYI, he is my brother, txs.

It will be randomly, i changed it. You can see my post for tournament.

I'm in. I want to play against Ratburntro since I have never been able to play against him.

It will be randomly selected.

I´d like to be in guys, but I can't get my mind around the fact that in 1vs1 red has a huge advantage. A tournament in this conditions could as well be decided by flipping a coin.

Yea but ist kinda stupid if we play 8 player game, becouse you can team before or when game is on. I think this is testing. Nothing is decided yet.

[Chess435]

I just said I would sit this one out in my last post. Sorry guys.

[1N5AN3]

There is maked batter and improved schedule of Sunday tournament. Its on page 5. And we need 2 more players.

[klapzi]

I think there should be ATLEAST 7 games between te players.

I won my first game at vortex wars playing against a lvl 8 guy, I took 5 of his man with 3 of mine. Pure luck. One game means nothing.


Edit: I also don't like de Hardcore setting, it kills some of the strategy and leaves the luck

Edit2: I think this is pretty obvious but..... Races with bonus shouldn't be allowed.

[1N5AN3]

I think there should be ATLEAST 7 games between te players.

I won my first game at vortex wars playing against a lvl 8 guy, I took 5 of his man with 3 of mine. Pure luck. One game means nothing.


Edit: I also don't like de Hardcore setting, it kills some of the strategy and leaves the luck

Edit2: I think this is pretty obvious but..... Races with bonus shouldn't be allowed.

In this 7 games you mean every player play against other player?
And this setting are best. You need luck but you need and strategy.

[klapzi]

I think there should be ATLEAST 7 games between te players.

I won my first game at vortex wars playing against a lvl 8 guy, I took 5 of his man with 3 of mine. Pure luck. One game means nothing.


Edit: I also don't like de Hardcore setting, it kills some of the strategy and leaves the luck

Edit2: I think this is pretty obvious but..... Races with bonus shouldn't be allowed.

In this 7 games you mean every player play against other player?
And this setting are best. You need luck but you need and strategy.

I agree with Medium Map, since Small Map gives the player starting a big advantage.
I don't like Full map, but have nothing against it, it's just a personal.
I don't like Hardcore, I will use something that has happened with me: I was losing the game badly, (I made some bad choices and was to greedy) and the guy had cornered me, in an attrition game, his victory was just a matter of time. But not in hardcore. I managed to break his two territories blocking me and take other 10 of his territorries(because I always won the rolls and lost no troops besides the one that stays in the territory) with the remaining troops. I won. Did I deserve it? No. I was just lucky.


As to the games, I propose something like basketball playoffs.
Best of 7
Ex:
Player 1 x Player 2
1 game(player 1 goes first): Player 1 wins
2 game(player 2 goes first): Player 1 wins
3 game(P1F): Player 2 wins
4 game(P2F): Player 1 wins
5 game(P1F): Player 2 wins
6 game(P2F): Player 1 wins

4x2 Player 1 wins (The game stops before 7 because player 2 situation is irreversible)

You might say, the number of games is odd, so if it comes to the seventh game, one player will be starting more times. Well, let it be random then.

This kind of play will also nullify the efects of going first, so we can play conquer games, which don't rely on the luck of having well distributed troops in your territories.

[1N5AN3]

I agree with Medium Map, since Small Map gives the player starting a big advantage.
I don't like Full map, but have nothing against it, it's just a personal.
I don't like Hardcore, I will use something that has happened with me: I was losing the game badly, (I made some bad choices and was to greedy) and the guy had cornered me, in an attrition game, his victory was just a matter of time. But not in hardcore. I managed to break his two territories blocking me and take other 10 of his territorries(because I always won the rolls and lost no troops besides the one that stays in the territory) with the remaining troops. I won. Did I deserve it? No. I was just lucky.


As to the games, I propose something like basketball playoffs.
Best of 7
Ex:
Player 1 x Player 2
1 game(player 1 goes first): Player 1 wins
2 game(player 2 goes first): Player 1 wins
3 game(P1F): Player 2 wins
4 game(P2F): Player 1 wins
5 game(P1F): Player 2 wins
6 game(P2F): Player 1 wins

4x2 Player 1 wins (The game stops before 7 because player 2 situation is irreversible)

You might say, the number of games is odd, so if it comes to the seventh game, one player will be starting more times. Well, let it be random then.

Hardcore is good but often tricky (Like in your case). But we all like different things.
I think its too many battles for weekly tournament. I was thinking to make a tournament where every player play vs every players. Win is 3 pts, lose 1 pts.Not coming 0 pts. And on end calculate and there is an winner.
BUT we need to see what Lopdo thinks about this tournaments. This is only 2nd so be patient, everything is possible.

[Lopdo]

I am happy to see you guys organizing tournaments, but don't expect anything from me right now. I am just too busy. I won't do anything until real tournaments are implemented. It is only up to until then..

[klapzi]

Hardcore is good but often tricky (Like in your case). But we all like different things.
I think its too many battles for weekly tournament. I was thinking to make a tournament where every player play vs every players. Win is 3 pts, lose 1 pts.Not coming 0 pts. And on end calculate and there is an winner.
BUT we need to see what Lopdo thinks about this tournaments. This is only 2nd so be patient, everything is possible.

It's also a good idea, Leagues are often fairer than cups because for ex:

Player 1 is the best player in the world - - - Player 2 is the second best. Then the cup goes like this
Semi
Player 1 x Player 2 -- 1 wins
Player 3 x Player 4 -- 4 wins

Finals
Player 1 x Player 4 --- 1 wins

2 is the second best, but he ended in fourth with 3 just because he faced the strongest opponent first. In leagues things like this don't happen.

But I insist that more than one game is played. Most cups and leagues in the world have more than one game, for only one game is unfair even when the game has almost no luck involved(which is not the case of vortex wars)

[1N5AN3]

I am happy to see you guys organizing tournaments, but don't expect anything from me right now. I am just too busy. I won't do anything until real tournaments are implemented. It is only up to until then..

I expected that. Could you say when is next update and what is going to be in it, or its a secret?

It's also a good idea, Leagues are often fairer than cups because for ex:

Player 1 is the best player in the world - - - Player 2 is the second best. Then the cup goes like this
Semi
Player 1 x Player 2 -- 1 wins
Player 3 x Player 4 -- 4 wins

Finals
Player 1 x Player 4 --- 1 wins

2 is the second best, but he ended in fourth with 3 just because he faced the strongest opponent first. In leagues things like this don't happen.

But I insist that more than one game is played. Most cups and leagues in the world have more than one game, for only one game is unfair even when the game has almost no luck involved(which is not the case of vortex wars)

That is a good idea, but on 1st tournament we had 4/8 player on tihs 6/8 (I hope 2 more players are goning to apply) and its not enough for your idea.

I was thinking to make an tournament which would last for a week.
Like 4-8 group with 4 players(They will play 2 matches every player vs every player). And first 2 players go on. Then go quarterfinals->semifinal->final.(Here one game)