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[Fangfallen]

I trust techgumps judgement. If he banned someone he did it for a good reason.

[calleharnemark]

I trust techgumps judgement. If he banned someone he did it for a good reason.

Agreed.

[techgump]

I must ask, however, what do you do when you are a player and notice cheating? Or, do you just avoid it altogether by playing with familiar, reputable players?

Generally I play well knowns. However, there are many times where I encounter unknowns. I have a ban list just like the rest of you in social, to which I use here and there. I have not encountered a cheater in my play in some time, so it just hasn't come up since secret allies were moved from just blacklist to banned.
I made an error in judgement 9-10 months ago and Lopdo called me on it (kicked a player that would not draw in a draw situation after 2 hours). Since then I figured it was best to remove myself as mod during play. Even my judgement is not perfect when it comes to my own interests; power corrupts.

[canag0d]

I must ask, however, what do you do when you are a player and notice cheating? Or, do you just avoid it altogether by playing with familiar, reputable players?

Generally I play well knowns. However, there are many times where I encounter unknowns. I have a ban list just like the rest of you in social, to which I use here and there. I have not encountered a cheater in my play in some time, so it just hasn't come up since secret allies were moved from just blacklist to banned.
I made an error in judgement 9-10 months ago and Lopdo called me on it (kicked a player that would not draw in a draw situation after 2 hours). Since then I figured it was best to remove myself as mod during play. Even my judgement is not perfect when it comes to my own interests; power corrupts.

Is this really a banable offence?

[techgump]

Is what really a ban-able offence?
A kick is not the same as a ban, if you are referring to the highlighted red. And, I specifically stated I made an ERROR in judgement in kicking him.

[canag0d]

Is what really a ban-able offence?
A kick is not the same as a ban, if you are referring to the highlighted red. And, I specifically stated I made an ERROR in judgement in kicking him.

I did not mean any offence, and I realized that you said you made an error. But even if it isn't banable, is this really frowned upon?

I just want to know the etiquette because I personally don't think a person who turtles all game, and has an impenetrable defense, deserves a draw. So I will play until the game is over and not draw.

I just don't want to break any "rules" or even "unwritten rules" if you know what I mean, and that is why I asked.

Sorry if this was misunderstood.

[calleharnemark]

Is what really a ban-able offence?
A kick is not the same as a ban, if you are referring to the highlighted red. And, I specifically stated I made an ERROR in judgement in kicking him.

I did not mean any offence, and I realized that you said you made an error. But even if it isn't banable, is this really frowned upon?

I just want to know the etiquette because I personally don't think a person who turtles all game, and has an impenetrable defense, deserves a draw. So I will play until the game is over and not draw.

I just don't want to break any "rules" or even "unwritten rules" if you know what I mean, and that is why I asked.

Sorry if this was misunderstood.

I agree. It's okay to carry on a game forever. No-one should force you to draw.

[Joshua]

Is what really a ban-able offence?
A kick is not the same as a ban, if you are referring to the highlighted red. And, I specifically stated I made an ERROR in judgement in kicking him.

I did not mean any offence, and I realized that you said you made an error. But even if it isn't banable, is this really frowned upon?

I just want to know the etiquette because I personally don't think a person who turtles all game, and has an impenetrable defense, deserves a draw. So I will play until the game is over and not draw.

I just don't want to break any "rules" or even "unwritten rules" if you know what I mean, and that is why I asked.

Sorry if this was misunderstood.

If two people have half the map each on Imperator, all fully loaded with 8s, and they have been playing it for hours and one wont accept a draw, generally it would then be frowned upon.

[techgump]

Is what really a ban-able offence?
A kick is not the same as a ban, if you are referring to the highlighted red. And, I specifically stated I made an ERROR in judgement in kicking him.

I did not mean any offence, and I realized that you said you made an error. But even if it isn't banable, is this really frowned upon?
I just want to know the etiquette because I personally don't think a person who turtles all game, and has an impenetrable defense, deserves a draw. So I will play until the game is over and not draw.
I just don't want to break any "rules" or even "unwritten rules" if you know what I mean, and that is why I asked.
Sorry if this was misunderstood.

As for ediqute... This was a super-large custom map. It was not about impenetrable defenses. We both had all 8s and the map was CastleWars, with both of us having the pretty much same amount of territories. It no longer came down to who could win by skill or luck, it came down to who would sit at the pc for another 2 hours... or 2 days. Imo, the proper thing to do is draw, especially after 2 hours of getting no where. Either way, I should have quit like any other would have had to do faced with the situation. It's not against the rules to keep playing.

[canag0d]

Yes I agree. If you both have relatively the same # territories and all 8's, then a draw is reasonable. Especially like you say, it's not about skill or luck.

What I meant was when some has like 18-22 territories, and there is only 1 border. The other person may have 100+ territories, and that person has played well and actually won the game.

The guy with 15-22 territories had just turtled in his fortress all game.

That IMO is not a draw, and the one guy with fewer territories should quit.

... Just my opinion though.