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How are your dragons working?

Poll ended at Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:18 am

My dragons rule in all modes/work just fine
6
26%
I see a difference in how they work in HC v ATT
4
17%
5% is not really much - they work the same as any race
6
26%
Dragons are glitched!
7
30%
 
Total votes : 23

Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby jwl1000 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:21 am

Ratburntro44 wrote:
Lancestar2 wrote:Dragons always die 1st in my book :) ..yes I usually fall on the sword so others can have a better shot against them :P I think most dragon players know to avoid me by know :lol: If not then I guess I need to play more often! :twisted:

In other words you're a douchebag.

oh come on, that's a bit harsh
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:26 am

jwl1000 wrote:
Ratburntro44 wrote:
Lancestar2 wrote:Dragons always die 1st in my book :) ..yes I usually fall on the sword so others can have a better shot against them :P I think most dragon players know to avoid me by know :lol: If not then I guess I need to play more often! :twisted:

In other words you're a douchebag.

oh come on, that's a bit harsh

It was also taking into account the rest of his history.
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby Lancestar2 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:30 am

Ratburntro44 wrote:
Lancestar2 wrote:Dragons always die 1st in my book :) ..yes I usually fall on the sword so others can have a better shot against them :P I think most dragon players know to avoid me by know :lol: If not then I guess I need to play more often! :twisted:

In other words you're a douchebag.


oh ok that's the way you treat me Ratburntro44 you go out attacking me name calling and such ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! ... Right now YOUR provoking me and YOUR causing a fight be insulting me you do realize that right? How about you stick to the issues instead of resorting to childish namecalling because you do it again I will report you! So either we can have a civilized conversation and debate our differences like polite people do or you can troll me again and I report you. I would ask that you please consider being polite as I trying to be towards you.
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Lancestar2 wrote:
why would you quote that and not say anything that is considered spamming my thread! DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN!

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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby BeatlesFan » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:18 am

Lancestar2 wrote:Dragons always die 1st in my book :) ..yes I usually fall on the sword so others can have a better shot against them :P I think most dragon players know to avoid me by know :lol: If not then I guess I need to play more often! :twisted:


I am hoping to get information directly from those who use dragons in game. In part I am doing this because I think they are glitched when attacking in HC mode.

BeatlesFan wrote:Dragon Users - I want to hear from you.

I would like to hear from anyone that owns dragons and has a fair amount of experience using them.

I would also like to hear from dragon owners that no longer use them.

Please - Dragon owners only.



For those without dragons I am attempting to make this a Dragon Users Forum. That is why the title and first post are written they way it is.

Assuming that dragons work "as advertised" - they are designed to be for those that want to contribute to the game - not to be feared or overpowered. They are exactly like Arachnids plus a 5% defense or exactly like Reptiles plus a 5% attack bonus. Please note that 5% is next to nothing. Assume that you are attacking with an 8 against an 8. This turns an average roll of 24 into a 25. At best you break a tie once in a while. When you don't a tie still goes to the defender.
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby Lancestar2 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:33 am

BeatlesFan wrote:

For those without dragons I am attempting to make this a Dragon Users Forum. That is why the title and first post are written they way it is.

Assuming that dragons work "as advertised" - they are designed to be for those that want to contribute to the game - not to be feared or overpowered. They are exactly like Arachnids plus a 5% defense or exactly like Reptiles plus a 5% attack bonus. Please note that 5% is next to nothing. Assume that you are attacking with an 8 against an 8. This turns an average roll of 24 into a 25. At best you break a tie once in a while. When you don't a tie still goes to the defender.


True however in a long battle situation when it comes down to a 1vs1 in a long game they have the huge advantage which does happen quite often. From my experience they have a big advantage in the game and tend to win if they are not attacked first. I don't think the Dragons are glitching I have seen it several times rather recently a Dragon player will win over a player without the race when in a close battle on equal playing terms in regards to everything else. Of course experience does vary so I guess that is a wild factory in it all. Best of luck in your research and hope you get your answers you seek.
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why would you quote that and not say anything that is considered spamming my thread! DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN!

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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby BeatlesFan » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:47 pm

Unless you own dragons, please do not post to the Dragon Users Forum
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:53 pm

Lancestar2 wrote:
Ratburntro44 wrote:
Lancestar2 wrote:Dragons always die 1st in my book :) ..yes I usually fall on the sword so others can have a better shot against them :P I think most dragon players know to avoid me by know :lol: If not then I guess I need to play more often! :twisted:

In other words you're a douchebag.


oh ok that's the way you treat me Ratburntro44 you go out attacking me name calling and such ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! ... Right now YOUR provoking me and YOUR causing a fight be insulting me you do realize that right? How about you stick to the issues instead of resorting to childish namecalling because you do it again I will report you! So either we can have a civilized conversation and debate our differences like polite people do or you can troll me again and I report you. I would ask that you please consider being polite as I trying to be towards you.

Yes, because I'm the one who purposely brings down other players because they've payed actual money to the game. Asserting that you childishly attack everyone who has dragons is not polite under any definition of the word.

It seems odd that you have said that in any game we play against each other you will kill me first, yet you think that I am the one provoking here.
Lancestar2 wrote:
BeatlesFan wrote:

For those without dragons I am attempting to make this a Dragon Users Forum. That is why the title and first post are written they way it is.

Assuming that dragons work "as advertised" - they are designed to be for those that want to contribute to the game - not to be feared or overpowered. They are exactly like Arachnids plus a 5% defense or exactly like Reptiles plus a 5% attack bonus. Please note that 5% is next to nothing. Assume that you are attacking with an 8 against an 8. This turns an average roll of 24 into a 25. At best you break a tie once in a while. When you don't a tie still goes to the defender.


True however in a long battle situation when it comes down to a 1vs1 in a long game they have the huge advantage which does happen quite often. From my experience they have a big advantage in the game and tend to win if they are not attacked first. I don't think the Dragons are glitching I have seen it several times rather recently a Dragon player will win over a player without the race when in a close battle on equal playing terms in regards to everything else. Of course experience does vary so I guess that is a wild factory in it all. Best of luck in your research and hope you get your answers you seek.

That's the point of bonus races: to decide games that would otherwise come down to a draw. However, it is very common for dragons to lose as well; tannenbaums and undead are, usually, actually better races to play with. Most of the people I see win with dragons also play much better than those they are opposing; the correlation here is more likely that players who win a lot are the ones who tend to buy dragons.

@Beatlesfan Playing with dragons yesterday, I didn't notice anything unusual; I won a 5v8 attack where I had about a 5% chance, but I did not have any strange losses; however, I was mostly in attrition games. I will try more in HC today.
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby calleharnemark » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:42 pm

Why would you try to get rid of those who support the game? The bonus is not big enough to make a difference.
But anyway, how much statistics on dragons rolls do we have now?
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby Lancestar2 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:35 pm

My apologize beatle I thought you wanted data in regards to experiences with Dragon races. Also Rat and Calle please stop flaming me I won't post here again provided you don't insult or bring me up again. Have a blessed day everybody!
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Re: Dragon Users Forum

Postby calleharnemark » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:40 pm

My post wasn't directed at you. But let's go back on topic. We should also try to calculate how many dragon users there are and how many is facing this problem.
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