What race is the best is the best for each game stile

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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby KAI5AH » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:02 pm

Xtermy wrote:
tonyy4 wrote:natives are not better, reptiles are better because not only they have 5% defense they have 10% spawn
how many high ranking players do u see playing natives?
so far i've seen the majority play reptiles, if not dragons


I disagree - many high-ranking players use the Natives and many prefer the attack based races as well.

Anyway, whether it's attack or defense, a %5 bonus is indeed not much at all (and there are a few old thread where the same high-ranking players have discussed it and came to this very conclusion). :idea:


a %5 bonus is indeed not much at all --- as i said :) and the 10 % spaw isn't so good it's good but not so much on the other hand the natives bonus ... whell i saw alot of times people trying attcking NATIVES 1 with 3 and lose the 3 ... seem to be nothing but when you att a huge player it becomes really hard to take him when your att is some think like 8 - 6 - 5- 3 - lose or 1 so you take only (3-4) lands instead of 8 - 7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 (6-7) in middle game maybe not critical but at beginning it can make difference of win and lose .. and even in middle game the 3-4 instead of 6-7 becomes annoying
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby Xtermy » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:40 am

KAI5AH wrote:
Xtermy wrote:
tonyy4 wrote:natives are not better, reptiles are better because not only they have 5% defense they have 10% spawn
how many high ranking players do u see playing natives?
so far i've seen the majority play reptiles, if not dragons


I disagree - many high-ranking players use the Natives and many prefer the attack based races as well.

Anyway, whether it's attack or defense, a %5 bonus is indeed not much at all (and there are a few old thread where the same high-ranking players have discussed it and came to this very conclusion). :idea:


a %5 bonus is indeed not much at all --- as i said :) and the 10 % spaw isn't so good it's good but not so much on the other hand the natives bonus ... whell i saw alot of times people trying attcking NATIVES 1 with 3 and lose the 3 ... seem to be nothing but when you att a huge player it becomes really hard to take him when your att is some think like 8 - 6 - 5- 3 - lose or 1 so you take only (3-4) lands instead of 8 - 7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 (6-7) in middle game maybe not critical but at beginning it can make difference of win and lose .. and even in middle game the 3-4 instead of 6-7 becomes annoying


Yep, there's no doubt that the Natives are a good defensive race.
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby KAI5AH » Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:50 pm

do you think a good defense is much better for a aggresor then a 5 % att and 10 % spaw ? or shall i buy archineds and not NATIVES )
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby Xtermy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:48 am

KAI5AH wrote:do you think a good defense is much better for a aggresor then a 5 % att and 10 % spaw ? or shall i buy archineds and not NATIVES )


I think natives are better for bigger maps, where, if a mistake is made (or simply bad luck), your opponent would have a much harder time getting through your Natives "Minefield".

On smaller maps, Arachnids should be good, but many high-ranking players seem to prefer the Natives either way.
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby Slengar » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:46 pm

I tend to agree with most people here... overall, Natives are better for ATT maps. Personally I like arachnids, reptiles or Undead for HC maps, as Natives are pretty pointless there.
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby Joshua » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:39 pm

I stick with arachnids most of the time, but the attack bonus isn't really noticeable. Undead are probably best for HC and full map. Reptiles are probably best for borders.
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby Xtermy » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:53 am

Very good and correct comments made by both Slengar and Joshua - I fully agree with the both of them. :)
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby techgump » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:46 am

Undead for any big full map mode with boosts. If you are up against dragons however, it's a gamble. When I see dragons in the room, I often switch to dragons. If it's you and dragons left, and they have at least 20-30 territories... you will lose despite your numbers.
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby necrocat219 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:29 pm

Personally for optimal use I like to use Pumpkins for Attrition games and Werewolves for Hardcore games. After learning how attrition works (the men lost not addected by your race bonus) I've been snowballing much easier in games. Also other players misunderstanding how their negative boosts don't affect battles of 4 or less causes them to play overagressively :) Overall Undead are probably best for Hardcore full map but I prefer Wolves for consistency throughout the game, especially with everyone getting the temptation to cut you when you begin to succeed.
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Re: What race is the best is the best for each game stile

Postby Xtermy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:07 am

necrocat219 wrote:Personally for optimal use I like to use Pumpkins for Attrition games and Werewolves for Hardcore games. After learning how attrition works (the men lost not addected by your race bonus) I've been snowballing much easier in games. Also other players misunderstanding how their negative boosts don't affect battles of 4 or less causes them to play overagressively :) Overall Undead are probably best for Hardcore full map but I prefer Wolves for consistency throughout the game, especially with everyone getting the temptation to cut you when you begin to succeed.


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