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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby Fangfallen » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 am

Seeing as it typically takes weeks to vote on anything.

I'd like to raise an issue.

Issue #?
A Clan must have at least 4 (Four) separate players that play the game and post on the forums at least once a month in order to be deemed active.
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I think we need a strong definition of 'active' before we can vote on removal of inactive clans.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby BeatlesFan » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:24 am

Well, I don't think that we need a new definition of Active Clan, unless we are also going to automatically kick out clans that don't meet that definition. If we approve this we still have to vote, so I don't see the point.

Also, I don't agree with the one month time frame. I (in my own mind anyway) dispute that most clans have as many active players as they claim. That is why for mine I created a monthly verification. The Council has no authority to impose such a thing on any clan and should they have 4 players that are active every 32 days I would not kick them out, especially given the state of the forum and game. Again, just for my own clan, I make them inactive after two months and kick them out at three.

VWC votes NO on the issue.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby GivinUDaHimelik » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:23 pm

Fangfallen wrote:Seeing as it typically takes weeks to vote on anything.

I'd like to raise an issue.

Issue #?
A Clan must have at least 4 (Four) separate players that play the game and post on the forums at least once a month in order to be deemed active.
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I think we need a strong definition of 'active' before we can vote on removal of inactive clans.


Not everyone views the forums as important as some of you do. Most of my clanmates play the game every week, some of them having just restarted due to the knockout period. I could get 4 members to post monthly, but I think it's unfair to force a clan to have its members make a forums account and post, just to be deemed active. I think the definition of an active clan should be what it already is, 4 or more members who all play the game frequently, or at least once every 2 weeks.

Also, to the point of removing OOS and XRiders, I am all for it. Neither has been active for some time.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby fluppa » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:27 pm

We (IF) think that the VW Council should verify every 3 months period if a clan is active. This should be done by 2 VW Council Members/Players by checking all Clan Members profile game sites
i.e. (Fluppa matches played in Jan = 2000 game / Fluppa matches played end of March = 2230 game) and/or checking the post(s) of all Clan Members (Fluppa 1 post in Jan, 2 posts in Feb, no post in March).
The 2 VW Council Members should be new appointed every 3 months period.

In case the 2 VW Council Members find out that a m/m of 4 clan players didn't played and/or post in one Clan within a 3 months period, the 2 VW Council Members should sent a final warning to
the respective Clan Leader. If no change in activity will occur after the next 3 month period this clan should be removed from the VW Council.

IF say "Yes" to the removal of OOS and X-Riders if they don't react until Beatlesfans deadline. IF say "No" to a removal of RR because our Members often played against RR Members within the last
months.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby Fangfallen » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:30 pm

Currently an active clan is defined as...
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Requirements for Council Recognition as an Active Clan:

1. Minimum of 4 members.
2. Minimum of 1 week in existence.


That definition is too loose.

How about...
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Requirements for Council Recognition as an Active Clan:

1. Minimum of 4 member who play the game at least once a month.
2. Minimum of 1 week in existence.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby GivinUDaHimelik » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:29 pm

fluppa wrote:We (IF) think that the VW Council should verify every 3 months period if a clan is active.


I agree with this, but each clan should have to provide its own proof, instead of a couple of council members looking for proof. The thread for Most Active Clan could be used for this purpose; not only would the clan then be verified as active but also gain points. No need to post screenshots or anything like that here in the Council thread.

Fangfallen wrote:1. Minimum of 4 members who play the game at least once a month.
2. Minimum of 1 week in existence.


Absolutely, this would be much better. I'd like to formally make it a new Issue.

I propose a revision to the definition of an Active Clan to: 1. Minimum of 4 members who play the game at least once a month.
2. Minimum of 1 week in existence.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby fluppa » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:28 pm

We (IF) can support Givinudahimelik's suggestion also if this means that a new clan will not be accepted by the VW Council until the new clan and all his (m/m four)
Members had sent proofs of their acitivties within a certain time period i.e. m/m 1 week, but max. 4 or more weeks, depends on when the screenshots been sent.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby Fangfallen » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:41 pm

I tentatively vote 'Yes.' to redefining what an active clan is. I await confirmation from Autumnwolf before the vote is final.
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby British Bulldog » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:24 pm

Can't the ruling be a clan has to play in at least 3 games in a clan war per month?
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Re: Vortex Wars Council

Postby Autumnwolf17 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:24 pm

Fangfallen wrote:I tentatively vote 'Yes.' to redefining what an active clan is. I await confirmation from Autumnwolf before the vote is final.

Confirmed. WolfPack votes "Yes."
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