Vortex Wars Council

[Ballsack]

It aslo looks like highlander has the majority for the new benchman, ill do some updates.

[GivinUDaHimelik]

the thread updated more? is this a ploy for you to try to get into the bench? dude just stop already.

y does every1 assume that i want power in something bc i ask for it to be run a little bit more efficiently? i dont want to be on the bench if everything runs smoothly, i dont want to be a WD host if everything is run smoothly!

PS yes it needs to be updated more often bc the votes for the VWC were basically all in last week and the issue up front kept saying "1-0"

[Fangfallen]

I'll get to work on those updates, sorry for the inconvenience, what with us missing a benchman and me not being able to update it due to being limited to a tablet for the most part, updates just haven't been happening.

I'll take care of it right away.

[Autumnwolf17]

About the redistribution of votes I have a few points to make. I'm not absolute about anything but the idea, there will need to be an agreement of how it works. There should probably be a combination of factors to determine, such as war ability, activeness of members, activeness of clan, involvement on the forums, experience, etc... I understand that certain clans limit their members on purpose, but there are other factors and besides, we have to have at least some base on game+forum presence so that the council better shows the opinions of the majority. And as the council is meant to represent all the clans, having weight based on majority is only common sense. As for how we do it?

1. We can define several different points based on different factors that contribute to great clans. If we can define different levels to each, it will be a non-opinionated way to get a reasonable score together for each clan. Once we get those points and levels together, we compare the total scores to each other to determine a second, temporary set of levels to evenly divide the number of total representatives allowed to each clan.

2. Alternatively, we could use a combined opinion from each other clan, secretly to one or two people if possible, to assess the overall contributions and influence of the other clans. While we can unfortunately expect their to be bias, the overall input of all the clans combined should get us a fairly accurate result.

[Autumnwolf17]

Some refinement upon either of these ideas or an entirely new idea are quite welcome, but this should give you a good idea of my thoughts. Additionally, I'd like to point out that the difference between the number of votes would almost certainly not be directly proportional. The goal is not to make two clans capable of majorities by their own sets of votes combined, just to get a better opinion and resolve issues more efficiently. Just to give an example of the sort of result we might have, I thought through a few example for clans. This is assuming a possible vote range of 1-5 representatives and using only my input and whatever bias may be there for the example, so don't criticize me too strongly on anything but the idea itself. It's just an example, and only some of the clans are placed for the purpose of the example. (The reasons listed in the parentheses are a short list of some of the attributes that cause the clan to deserve the council status they are listed with and are neither complete nor final catagories)

WolfPack - 5 (Long term clan experience, High member count, High participation in events, Forum participation, Overall reputation...)
Rangers - 5 (Member ability, Member seniority, Respectability, Member performance, Leadership...)
Warrior's Creed - 3 (Member experience, Senority, Low member activity, Declining representation...)
Thirsty Warfare - 1 (Low member count, Young clan, Declining activity, Minimal experience...)
Order of Secrets - 1/0 (Dead for a quite a while, Made up of secondary accounts, Completely uninvolved in all events...)

There would be some difficult counts as well, such as Soldiers (Accusations, Minimal representation diversity), Mantids (Reputation for immaturity), and VWC (Accounting for the inclusion of multi-clan), but it is something that could be worked through with a bit of debate once everything gets defined. That's what the council is for.

Spoiler: show

Yes, the bit on Order of Secrets is a partial case for why they should be gone

[Sabre]

Okay, here we go...

The O.O.S. is kicked from the Council on the grounds of inactivity.
The Knights of the Round Table is removed from the Council due to their disbanding.
The Vortex Warriors Clan is welcomed into the Council with 6 yes votes.
Highlander is accepted as a Council Benchman. (Will await final confirmation from Highlander as to his acceptance of the position.)

[highlander]

I accept.

[Sabre]

I accept.

Perfect, I will PM you all the necessary information shortly.

[Sabre]

Okay, I need all the clans to update their votes on the following two issues.

Issue #5- Every issue will have a ten day voting period, at the end of this period the majority vote rules or the tie will be broken by the Bench.
YES- 3 NO- 2
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Issue #10- Allow Council Members to vote on issues that were raised before the members were accepted.
WC, KM, KOTRT, WP
Yes- 2 No- 2

[Ballsack]

Some refinement upon either of these ideas or an entirely new idea are quite welcome, but this should give you a good idea of my thoughts. Additionally, I'd like to point out that the difference between the number of votes would almost certainly not be directly proportional. The goal is not to make two clans capable of majorities by their own sets of votes combined, just to get a better opinion and resolve issues more efficiently. Just to give an example of the sort of result we might have, I thought through a few example for clans. This is assuming a possible vote range of 1-5 representatives and using only my input and whatever bias may be there for the example, so don't criticize me too strongly on anything but the idea itself. It's just an example, and only some of the clans are placed for the purpose of the example. (The reasons listed in the parentheses are a short list of some of the attributes that cause the clan to deserve the council status they are listed with and are neither complete nor final catagories)

WolfPack - 5 (Long term clan experience, High member count, High participation in events, Forum participation, Overall reputation...)
Rangers - 5 (Member ability, Member seniority, Respectability, Member performance, Leadership...)
Warrior's Creed - 3 (Member experience, Senority, Low member activity, Declining representation...)
Thirsty Warfare - 1 (Low member count, Young clan, Declining activity, Minimal experience...)
Order of Secrets - 1/0 (Dead for a quite a while, Made up of secondary accounts, Completely uninvolved in all events...)

There would be some difficult counts as well, such as Soldiers (Accusations, Minimal representation diversity), Mantids (Reputation for immaturity), and VWC (Accounting for the inclusion of multi-clan), but it is something that could be worked through with a bit of debate once everything gets defined. That's what the council is for.

Spoiler: show

Yes, the bit on Order of Secrets is a partial case for why they should be gone

Were does arm fit in then?