Vortex Wars Council

[Vortex_Master]

WC will vote NO on Issue 11. It does not follow the council's sixth Statue, and imposes rules for a war upon every individual clan, much how Fiendess tried to do. We believe a clan should decide what comes out of their wars, whether it be gloating rights, total take over, a medal, or whatever.

[Sabre]

Okay, if anyone would like to help me with the history of the Council, feel free to PM me what you got.

[Autumnwolf17]

Okay, if anyone would like to help me with the history of the Council, feel free to PM me what you got.

Council is created
Council is inactive
Council is rebooted
Fang takes over
Autumn writes history

[highlander]

Apart from Autumnwolf17's shortened version of council history the front page is getting the Fangfallen wow factor.

Also i don't understands votex_master's objection to the 6th as it clearly says cannot.
The clans only fight for a right to gloat but not too extreme.

[Vortex_Master]

Apart from Autumnwolf17's shortened version of council history the front page is getting the Fangfallen wow factor.

Also i don't understands votex_master's objection to the 6th as it clearly says cannot.
The clans only fight for a right to gloat but not too extreme.

I was not objecting to Statue 6, I was objecting to Issue 11 because it goes against Statue 6.

I am saying that Issue 11 is imposing something upon each individual clan. I know Statue 6 is meant to be so we don't leave out an individual clan, and Issue 11 doesn't do that, but it can also be taken as denying a clan to have a clan war any other way than what the council is trying to impose with Issue 11.

I object to Issue 11 because it denies clans free will to decide the outcome of their wars.

I should be the choice of each clan whether or not they want to be a part of a set system for clan wars, much how Chris set up a topic about it.

[Sabre]

Issue 11 is not designed to force all members to adhere to it.

How I was expecting it to work is two clans agreeing to do a war using the system and then the results would be added in.. So, not ALL wars would be categorized, just the ones that are agreed upon. Of course, doing it that way, might as well just make a new thread and turn it into a clan competition. It's a flawed system, I was hoping that the Council would modify the general idea to suit their preferences.

[Sabre]

Okay, if anyone would like to help me with the history of the Council, feel free to PM me what you got.

Council is created
Council is inactive
Council is rebooted
Fang takes over
Autumn writes history

I didn't "take over," it's shared between the 3 people, it's just that I did all of the work on the page design, and most of the other work.

[Vortex_Master]

Issue 11 is not designed to force all members to adhere to it.

How I was expecting it to work is two clans agreeing to do a war using the system and then the results would be added in.. So, not ALL wars would be categorized, just the ones that are agreed upon. Of course, doing it that way, might as well just make a new thread and turn it into a clan competition. It's a flawed system, I was hoping that the Council would modify the general idea to suit their preferences.

I think you have enough to deal with already. (I mean that as in you do a lot in this community already.) I don't think you need to add on overseeing a new system for clan wars, but if you want to, go for it and then advertise it here, however, I think that if it doesn't involve all clans, and in some way improve upon any current issues between clans, that it should not be here.

Of course, and this has already been brought up before, we don't really have any power any way. Nor do the clans. We are all in some way or another "self appointed," and therefore cannot impose anything on anyone. But that isn't what this is about.

P.S. Do not take any offence from this. I mean it in no way hurtful, and I am simply trying to voice what I believe is best for this community and my clan. Thank you.

[Fangfallen]

Nah, no offense is taken. And I agree, none of us have true power. Thing is, because all the big-name clans are in the council, all the new clans want to be in the council. This gives us really one power to enforce Council decided rules.. Kicking from the Council. It's all quite ludicrous if you think about it, yet this is how we operate.

[Ratburntro44]

might as well just make a new thread and turn it into a clan competition.

I would emphasize this strongly.

If you want to make some sort of clan competition/league/whatever you want to call it following those rules, knock yourself out. No reason for the council to be running it or involved with it.